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Weekly Debate - "Have UK politicians got it right with the Digital Economy Bill?"

 

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this blog are submitted by individuals and in no way represent the official position of the Music Producers Guild (UK), which cannot accept responsibility thereof.

Posted on March 20, 2010 @ 11:00 AM most recent comment at December 08, 2011 @ 01:06 PM

Have UK politicians got it right with the Digital Economy Bill?

The British parliament is currently debating this bill, which, amongst other things, is intended to kurb the tide of illegal music file sharing.

Some argue that this is an infringement of peoples' rights to internet access and privacy, which would be compromised by the requirement that the ISP's (who supply internet access to the general public) supply details of internet users' downloaded data to the copyright owners, i.e. the music record companies.

Others argue that this is the only way to control illegal file sharing, which is responsible for undermining a viable future for the commercial music industry.

Check these links for more information:

http://interactive.bis.gov.uk/digitalbritain/digital-economy-bill/

http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2009-10/digitaleconomy.html

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/2010/03/19/10000-uk-voters-demand-digital-economy-bill-debate-as-youtube-faces-court.html

http://www.ukmusic.org/policy/176--uk-music-welcomes-digital-economy-bill

http://www.featuredartistscoalition.com/showscreen.php?site_id=161&screentype=folder&screenid=2990&newsaction=showitem&newsid=2549&dc=6&sn=News

http://www.openrightsgroup.org/campaigns/disconnection
Comments (22)
 
posted almost 2 years ago by Richard Elen
The bill is a disaster area of lack of understanding of the issues. Ordinary people risk disconnection without due process; sites could be blocked from users for legitimate users because of alleged infringing content; and research indicates that measures of this type do nothing to reduce piracy. Pirates will immediately use proxies and other anonymising methods to continue what they're doing: only ordinary people will be affected. It's quite likely that WiFi access points like those in hotels, libraries and coffee shops will close down because their owners will be responsible for any infringement. This bill will not solve any problems for the industry - in fact it'll create them. Suppose you send a rough mix to a collaborator using a file transfer system like YouSendIt. It's a music file, so it will be assumed to be an infringement. And you may not be able to access YouSendIt in the first place because access has been blocked as a result of other alleged infringements. Suppose you run an internet radio station. In the UK that requires two licenses, one from PRS (typically the Limited Online Exploitation Licence or LOEL), and the other a Webcasting licence from PPL. Part of what you pay for the PPL licence is a dubbing fee that allows you to copy commercial recordings to a common library. You might do that in "the cloud" using a service like DropBox. How will the authorities know that your music files are legally there? Do you seriously think they'll check with PPL? Of course not. It'll be seen as an infringement. Or you may have already lost access to your library because someone thinks someone else has posted infringing material to it. Worst of all, the bill is being rushed through Parliament without the debate needed to get properly to grips with the issues. The bill as it stands will threaten the growth of a co-creative digital economy. The industry badly needs to review its position. We've known since the Warners Home Taping survey in the early 1980s that the people who buy music are the people who share music. In my view a business strategy that makes your customer the enemy is not a good one. The population at large believes that a lot of the figures for illegal file transfer are conjured out of thin air - a recent press release claimed that a quarter of a million UK jobs in creative industries would be lost as a result of piracy where in fact there are only 130,000 at present. This does not look good. The industry has a history of taking the wrong position on new technology. Phonograph records would kill off sheet music sales and live performance. Airplay would stop people buying records (how wrong can you be?). And so on. The attitude to new technology seems to be "How do we stop it?" We should instead be asking "How do we use this technology to make money and serve our customers?" The industry is changing. More and more recordings are being made by individuals in small studios collaborating across the world via the Internet. Sales are increasingly in the "Long Tail" and not in the form of smash hits from the majors. Instead of the vast majority of sales being made through a small number of distribution channels controlled by half-a-dozen big record companies, they're increasingly being made via individual artists selling from their web sites and at gigs; small online record companies like Magnatune.com; and so on. It's impossible to count all those tiny micro-outlets, and they are not even recorded as sales in many cases, yet this is exactly where an increasing proportion of sales are coming from. I've seen some research from a few years ago even suggested that there was actually a continual year-on-year rise of around 7% in music sales and not a fall at all. And indeed the latest official figures show that legal downloads are more than making up for the loss of packaged media sales - and bear in mind that these numbers may increasingly ignore the vast majority of those Long Tail outlets. I don't have all the answers to what we should be doing as an industry. It's a time of change as fundamental as the introduction of the printing press. The scribes are out of a job - but the printers will do well once they get their act together. Right now we're in between the old world and the new, and everything is in flux. What I am sure of, however, is that making our customers the enemy is not the way to go. We have to find answers that use the new technology to advance our business and serve our customers, and not pretend that we can force the old ways to return, because if we do, we will all lose. The Digital Economy Bill in its current form actually *strangles* the Digital Economy - something we need to help pull us out of recession - rather than supporting it. It stems from old-age thinking and lack of understanding of the technology and its opportunities. It should not be allowed to be rushed through Parliament. Instead it needs an enlightened re-write that acknowledges what is really going on in the world and how we can make it work for us.
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posted almost 2 years ago by mickglossop
I couldn't agree more. This is the first account I've read which encompasses almost all of the aspects of this complex issue in one document.

Another way in which the "legal" internet user can be unfairly prosecuted is if their wi-fi internet access is hijacked by an anonymous hacker who proceeds to download music files. The guilt will be attributed to the ISP account holder. In fact, if they have not enabled password access, their wi-fi can be accessed by anyone parked outside in the street with a lap-top.

Of course, being a freelance record producer whose income derives in part from royalty payments, I do want to continue to be paid for my work. However, the music "industry" reaction in simply demanding that "abusers" are prosecuted is not good enough.

A much more imaginative and forward thinking mentality is needed.
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posted almost 2 years ago by teepee
Whether Richard's viewpoint is correct or not - and there are some issues he has not properly represented as they are in the bill - he fails to acknowledge a very important aspect of the wider context.

The internet should not and can not be policed, censured or controlled - it is in fact a marvelous anarchy. However, the survival of such an anarchy depends on considerate and responsible behaviour from the participants.

Regrettably we are not experiencing that and what is worse the gatekeepers of the system are the worst offenders.

Unfortunately they have discovered how to make (literally) capital out of it and they don't really care how.

 
posted almost 2 years ago by George Shilling
I'm a bit concerned to receive the MPG Mailout with the headline "Well done UK Music, The DE Bill is now law" and the rather celebratory tone of this page http://www.mpg.org.uk/news_stories/207 Does the MPG really support this act? What is the official position of the MPG on this? If the MPG officially supports this appalling bill I will consider resigning my membership! I don't want to re-tread old arguments, but I was a serial home-taper, and that certainly didn't kill the music industry. It did however influence my musical tastes and enthusiasm for music, and probably influenced my career choice!
 
posted almost 2 years ago by George Shilling
And why do comments on here not reflect the paragraph breaks I put in when typing all that?! ;-)
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posted almost 2 years ago by mickglossop
Apologies for the missing line breaks, George. This is due to the limitations of the text editor used by the website for creating blogs - our web designer is working to improve it.
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posted almost 2 years ago by mickglossop
Tony - in your statement, you refer to gatekeepers. Are you referring the the ISP's?
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posted almost 2 years ago by mickglossop
George - you have raised an important issue, which has been discussed by the board of directors, but has not yet achieved a satisfactory resolution, i.e. "Should the Music Producers Guild (UK), in the manner of the Featured Artists Coalition, involve itself in political issues which affect record producers?". If so, it raises the next question, which is: "What is the MPG position on illegal file sharing and the Digital Economy Act?".
 
posted almost 2 years ago by Tony Platt
Mick - indeed I am referring to the ISPs as Gatekeepers. I feel they are consistently failing to take proper responsibility for the effects of their business and because they wield such a lot of power both economically and politically everyone falls short of forcing them to pay more attention. They are in the best position to do something about a lot of issues including file sharing.
 
posted almost 2 years ago by Haydn Bendall
I don't know if the MPG is in the position to have a view on political issues actually, and if it does have a political view, then that to me reduces the potency of the MPG. The idea of the MPG representing an independently thinking group of people is enormously attractive - the idea of the MPG taking a political stance on an issue affecting music makers/producers is not. I personally believe that illegal file sharing is odious, free music and free art is socially and intellectually destructive and I'm afraid that I won't be convinced otherwise. However I'm happy that people embrace other views but I do feel that the MPG should be broad enough to allow all of those views to exist happily within the organisation.
 
posted almost 2 years ago by Haydn Bendall
I don't understand why this bill is being seen as such a big deal to be honest. It just gives a rights holder a legal avenue to go down to stop their work being distributed if the rights holder wants to. Doesn't it? Maybe I've misunderstood/overlooked the finer points... If some people are happy for their stuff to be shared then nothing changes as I understand it.
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posted almost 2 years ago by mickglossop
Haydn - thanks for your comment re MPG and political issues. This subject is the topic of this week's debate - please could you copy/paste your comment there in order to get the discussion rolling?
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posted almost 2 years ago by mickglossop
Anyone interested in this debate should read this intelligent article by John Naughton in the Observer today: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/apr/11/the-networker-illegal-downloads
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posted almost 2 years ago by mickglossop
Tony - blaming the ISP's for illegal downloading of music files is like blaming the manufacturer of your telly for the bad documentaries on BBC3
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posted almost 2 years ago by teepee
Mick - I am not blaming the ISPs, merely pointing out that they have the tools to help us in the situation but don't use them. Your analogy is far from the mark!
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posted almost 2 years ago by teepee
I am posting part of this comment in both discussions as it is relevant to both.

In this case anyway the legislation is nothing more than a piece of sticking plaster that will fall off as soon as it gets wet! Actually we could be more effective by forming a group to look at ways to reverse the trend of filesharing without or in spite of legislation. Surely the most difficult part of the problem is the way filesharing has become second nature to so many and the fact that they don't fully understand the long term implications for the grass roots of the creative industries. Currently filesharers are only aware that large corporations and government are challenging them and quite naturally are contesting that stance and couldn't care less if Sony loses money as a result. They don't see or comprehend the effect it is having on individual musicians, producers, engineers etc. My faith in human nature leads me to believe that if we can strive to get that message accross then we would make much more progress.
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posted almost 2 years ago by mickglossop
By expecting the ISPs to use those tools to control illegal file sharing, you are maintaining that they have a responsibility to use them, and by not doing so, are in effect condoning illegal file sharing, hence my use of the word "blame". Indeed, the term "gatekeeper" implies responsibility for monitoring and control. The analogy is quite succinct: the ISPs provide the technical means by which we interact on-line, and in some cases even supply the hardware (BT gives away ADSL modems). They don't create the files. It might be possible to achieve co-operation with the ISPs in order to monitor and control illegal file sharing, but to expect it as an inherent obligation is unreasonable. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I completely agree regarding the lack of appreciation or understanding on the part of the new generation of younger file sharers. A massive program of enlightenment is needed, and this is one of the ways in which the DEA is failing to deal with the problem.
 
posted almost 2 years ago by George Shilling
No, politicians have got it badly wrong. Only 40 MPs were even present during the debate, and many didn't bother voting. It is unprecedented to use the wash-up to push through such contentious legislation. I tend to believe the research that shows that file sharers tend to spend more money on music not less. The problem with this act is that the onus is on the consumer to prove they weren't doing anything 'illegal' - it's like Chinese censorship if you let ISPs start policing what is going down their wires. It will cost ISPs lots to do that, and therefore there will be less money for high speed infrastructure. You don't expect the postman to check if there's anything naughty inside your envelopes, and then have him arrange for your letterbox to be bricked up should that be the case! There is no case that file sharing has lost anyone income; it's quite possible that those sharing huge numbers of files are opportunistic and not that interested in the music anyway. Unforunately for the major labels, the world changed and they didn't have the imagination to keep up - it took Apple to show them how to monetise downloading. I'd like the freedom to search for obscure tracks that are not available on CD or iTunes, and the freedom to send out showreels of music which I've been involved in the creation of without worrying that I'll have my internet cut off! People have shared music long before the internet, lending albums, taping, etc. It's good to talk and share and create interest and enthusiasm, and probably more likely to generate income through ultimate sales than Spotify. Even if your income is mainly from major label royalties, I still don't think there's any justification for supporting this legislation, which is a total mess of civil rights infringement and protectionism. The whole thing is tangled up with vested interests and lobbyists and Peter Mandelson - interestingly, DAB chip manufacturers and Classic FM's owners are also particularly pleased with the outcome... It's not something the MPG should support.
 
posted almost 2 years ago by Haydn Bendall
I honestly don't see what the big fuss is about apart from it being a Labour/Conservative bashing exercise depending upon the colour of your credo. Wasted, tedious effort! To believe that nicking stuff and sharing it with your friends who have nicked stuff is cool is not something I condone but there we are. Of course the whole thing is tangled up with vested interests but so are most of the arguments put forward here on this page. Also, continuously bashing majors is such a stuck record, stuck record, stuck record, stuck record, stuck record, stuck record. The majors and some of the people in them, are responsible for some very good things that are happening today actually, but that is for debate elsewhere.
 
posted almost 2 years ago by George Shilling
Some further reading on this: http://torrentfreak.com/how-file-sharers-will-bypass-uks-anti-piracy-act-100412/?utm_source=TorrentFreak&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Torrentfreak+%28Torrentfreak%29 ........ and .............. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/apr/12/digital-economy-bill-households-piracy
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posted almost 2 years ago by teepee
Here is some interesting background to the immediate effects of the bill

http://www.simkins.co.uk/ebulletins/EcsOfcomCopyrightInfringement.aspx
 
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